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    If identity were genuinely sortal-relative as Geach claim... — Carmelics
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    Supports→Geach's argument from language relativity does not establish that Relative Identity (RI) is true of identity as formalized in FOL=

    If identity were genuinely sortal-relative as Geach claims, referential success in first-order languages would be systematically undermined, producing radical indeterminacy Geach himself does not endorse.

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    Geach(The statement discusses an objection Geach made)
    Peter Geach was a 20th-century British philosopher who raised logical objections to certain philosophical theories, including one about how language and meaning work.
    Identity(Adams treats identity statements as a variety of atomic formula rather than a logical truth exempt from existence presuppositions)
    A relation between an object and itself, expressed as an atomic formula (a=a), subject to the same existence-entailment conditions as other atomic predicates under GSA
    Radical indeterminacy(in epistemology and philosophy of language)
    A state where meaning is completely unclear or unstable—where there's no way to pin down what something actually means.
    Sortal-relative(describes how identity works according to Geach)
    Dependent on what *kind* or *category* of thing you're talking about; the answer changes based on whether you're asking about it as a person, a body, a statue, etc.

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    first-order languages(as the type of language being discussed)
    Everyday logical language that directly talks about objects and their properties, as opposed to more abstract languages that talk about language itself.
    referential success(as what would be undermined by Geach's view)
    When language actually manages to pick out or point to the thing you're trying to talk about—like how the word 'cat' successfully refers to an actual cat.

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