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    Challenges→Primitivism about normativity implies primitivism about normative properties and concepts.

    If normative properties can be analyzed by appeal to reasons-relations whose normative force is taken as primitive, the properties themselves need not be primitive.

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    • 1.Reasons-relations are more epistemically tractable than abstract normative properties, making them better foundations for analysis.
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    • 2.Taking reasons-relations as primitive avoids infinite regress: we must stop somewhere, and relations are a legitimate stopping point.
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    • 3.Normativity can be multiply realized through different reasons-relations, so derived properties need not be fundamental themselves.
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    • 1.If reasons-relations have normative force primitively, that force just IS a normative property, making the analysis circular.
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    • 2.Analyzing normativity through reasons-relations merely relocates rather than eliminates the metaphysical problem of what makes them normative.
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    • 3.Derived properties still require grounding in something metaphysically fundamental; derivative status doesn't solve the grounding problem.
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