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    It is not the case that If numerical identity is sortal-relative, the Father and Son can be the same God yet distinct persons without contradiction, undermining the premise that they are simply 'non-identical'.

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    • 1.Sortal-relative identity lacks clear metaphysical grounding: what makes identity 'relative' to a concept rather than a feature of reality itself?
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    • 2.The Father and Son being distinct persons yet identical as God invokes relative identity but also requires they differ in at least one property (personhood), making absolute non-identity unavoidable.
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    • 3.Sortal relativism risks trivializing identity: if anything can be identical-relative-to-some-sortal, the claim loses explanatory power for the Trinity specifically.
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    • 1.Identity conditions vary by sortal: 'same water' and 'same H2O molecule' apply different criteria, so 'same God' and 'same person' can differ legitimately.
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    • 2.Relative identity dissolves the contradiction by rejecting the assumption that identity is univocal across all contexts and conceptual schemes.
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    • 3.Classical logic permits 'x=y relative to sortal S and x≠y relative to sortal T' without violating non-contradiction if we reject absolute identity.
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