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    It is not the case that If one activity is correctly valued more than another, it must be because the first produces more numerous, intense, or durable pleasures.

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    • 1.Mill himself distinguishes 'higher' from 'lower' pleasures based on qualitative differences recognized by competent judges, not quantitative aggregation.
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    • 2.If qualitative superiority is irreducible to quantity, then correct valuation can track quality of pleasure independent of numerousness, intensity, or duration.
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    • 1.G.E. Moore's ideal utilitarianism holds that beauty, knowledge, and friendship have intrinsic value independent of the pleasure they produce.
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    • 2.If non-hedonic goods can be correctly valued more than pleasure-producing alternatives, then quantity of pleasure cannot be the sole basis for comparative valuation.
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    • 1.Activities have no intrinsic comparative worth.
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    • 2.The only basis for preferring one activity over another under hedonism is the quantity of pleasure produced.
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