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    It is not the case that If people can attempt suicide in Hell, they will all successfuly commit suicide in Hell

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    Reasons For

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    Reason for 1 of 2
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    • 1.Schopenhauer argues suicide fails as escape because the will-to-live persists through the act; analogously, if Hell is constituted by an inextinguishable will or conscious existence, the self that seeks annihilation perpetually reconstitutes itself.
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    • 2.If the persistence condition for damnation entails that the subject cannot cease to exist, then successful suicide in Hell is not merely difficult but logically precluded by the same metaphysical framework that defines Hell.
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    • 3.Argument 2's premise that 'there are no hindrances' assumes physical rather than ontological constraints, but the deepest hindrance may be structural: the damned lack the metaphysical capacity for self-termination.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.In traditional theological accounts (Aquinas, Dante), Hell involves the privation of good but not necessarily the presence of a mortal body susceptible to physical destruction.
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    • 2.If the damned soul persists as an incorporeal or indestructible substance, the causal mechanism by which suicide produces death is absent, making successful self-annihilation metaphysically impossible regardless of intent.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.The people have an infinite amount of time to decide to attempt suicide
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    • 2.It is not that any thing(s) would prevent them from attempting suicide forever
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    • 3.If the above is true, then if people can attempt suicide in Hell, they all will attempt suicide in Hell
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    Reason against 2 of 2
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    • 1.It is not that those who attempt suicide in Hell would have any hindrances
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    • 2.If there are no hindrances to committing suicide in Hell, then if people all will attempt suicide in Hell, they all will successfully commit suicide in Hell
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