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If retributive intuitions about desert are themselves exp... — Carmelics

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Challenges→A consequentialist must justify punishment as a cost-effective means to certain independently identifiable goods.

If retributive intuitions about desert are themselves explained and vindicated by their role in sustaining cooperative social order, the goods punishment tracks are not 'independently identifiable' from retributive considerations.

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1.Retributive intuitions about proportional desert evolved because they solved coordination problems in reciprocal societies.
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2.If a moral concept's justification derives entirely from social functionality, it lacks independent normative grounding.
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3.Punishment's alleged goods (deterrence, rehabilitation, incapacitation) are identifiable only through retributive framing.
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1.A belief's evolutionary origin or social utility doesn't determine whether its referent (desert, justice) exists independently.
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2.Retributive intuitions could be reliable trackers of independently real moral facts about culpability and proportionality.
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3.Deterrence and rehabilitation are identifiable as distinct social goods without appeal to retributive desert concepts.
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Retributive intuitions(ethics): Our gut feeling that wrongdoers should be punished simply because they did something bad, without needing another reason.
Vindicated(as used to describe whether a claim can be supported): Proven to be correct or justified based on evidence or reasoning.
cooperative social order(as used in political philosophy and ethics): A society where people work together and follow rules that benefit everyone, rather than pursuing selfish interests.
desert(Cited as a backward-looking basis for justice that utilitarianism cannot straightforwardly accommodate.): What a person merits or is owed based on their past actions or conduct.
independently identifiable(as used in philosophy of punishment and conceptual analysis): Able to be understood or recognized on its own, without needing to reference something else.
retributive considerations(as used in philosophy of punishment): Arguments or reasons based on the idea that punishment is justified because wrongdoers deserve to suffer for what they did.

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