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    It is not the case that If simplicity is not objective but framework-dependent, the 'best system' lacks a determinate winner across all conceptual schemes.

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    • 1.Some simplicity measures (like algorithmic information content) are mathematically definable and framework-independent, suggesting objectivity is possible.
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    • 2.Framework-dependence of simplicity assessments doesn't entail indeterminacy; frameworks can be compared by their empirical success and predictive power.
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    • 3.A 'determinate winner' may exist within any given framework even if no single winner spans all frameworks—which doesn't undermine practical rationality.
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    • 1.Different scientific frameworks (Newtonian vs. relativistic physics) identify different 'simplest' laws as fundamental, showing framework-dependence.
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    • 2.No meta-framework exists that can evaluate simplicity objectively without itself relying on particular conceptual commitments and assumptions.
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    • 3.If simplicity were objective, rational agents with identical information but different frameworks should converge on identical 'best systems'—they don't.
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