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    It is not the case that If Socrates cannot exist without his humanity, and his humanity cannot be instantiated without being Socrates's humanity, the two are mutually individuating and thus identical.

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    • 1.Mutual dependence for instantiation doesn't entail identity: a statue and the clay composing it are mutually dependent yet arguably distinct.
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    • 2.Essential properties can distinguish entities: Socrates is a particular substance, while humanity is a universal property—different ontological categories.
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    • 3.The argument conflates epistemic inseparability with metaphysical identity; we cannot know them apart without claiming they are not distinct things.
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    • 1.Mutual dependence for individuation implies identity: if neither can be individuated except through the other, they cannot be distinct entities.
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    • 2.Socrates's essential humanity cannot be separated from him in any possible world, making his humanity constitutive of his very identity.
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    • 3.If two things have identical conditions of existence and individuation, Occam's Razor favors positing one entity rather than two.
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