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    It is not the case that If substance were merely formal, Aristotle's distinction between primary and secondary substance would collapse into a purely logical taxonomy.

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    • 1.Aristotelian primary substances (e.g., 'this horse') are already formal essences; their thisness (haecceity) is a principle of form, not matter.
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    • 2.A logical taxonomy need not be merely formal—species and genera carve nature at real joints reflecting genuine metaphysical kinds and structures.
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    • 3.The primary/secondary distinction remains substantive even if both are formal: one is instantiated in individuals, the other exists only universally.
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    • 1.Primary substance (individual objects) has ontological independence; secondary substance (species/genus) exists only in thought and language.
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    • 2.If substance were purely formal, the distinction between what exists independently and what exists only as conceptual categories would vanish.
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    • 3.Aristotle's hylomorphism requires matter as a real principle; pure formality cannot account for individual material particulars.
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