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    It is not the case that If temporal passage is observer-independent, then past events genuinely cease to exist regardless of whether they remain ET-simultaneous with an eternal God.

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    • 1.God's eternal present means all events coexist in a single temporal location, contradicting the claim that past events cease to exist.
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    • 2.Observer-independence may apply only to the structure of spacetime, not to which events exist relative to a given temporal location.
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    • 3.Ceasing to exist entails no longer being present anywhere; eternal presence in God's simultaneity class means never ceasing to exist.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Temporal passage is a feature of the physical universe independent of any observer's cognitive relation to events.
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    • 2.If passage is observer-independent, then existence facts cannot depend on God's eternal perspective or simultaneity relations.
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    • 3.Ceasing to exist is logically compatible with remaining eternally accessible to an omniscient being's knowledge.
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