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    Challenges→Theorists who deny that an organism may continue its existence as a corpse must deny that, as concerns corpses, being dead implies having died.

    If the corpse-stage is a later temporal part of the same four-dimensional worm as the living organism, then the corpse did undergo the event of dying at the boundary stage.

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    • 1.Four-dimensionalism treats objects as extended through time like they're extended through space, so all temporal parts belong to one unified entity.
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    • 2.Events are changes between distinct states; the transition from living to corpse-state is a genuine change, so dying occurs at this boundary.
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    • 3.If the corpse is part of the same worm, it inherits the history of that worm, including the event that produced its current state.
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    • 1.Dying is fundamentally a property of the living organism, not the corpse; the corpse cannot undergo dying because it lacks the relevant capacities.
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    • 2.The corpse-stage exists only after dying has already occurred; attributing dying to it confuses the event with its aftermath.
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    • 3.Temporal parts don't share non-relational properties; if the living part had agency, the corpse-part doesn't, so they can't both undergo the same event.
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