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    It is not the case that If the Son exists of necessity, his existence cannot be contingent on any causal act, even one performed necessarily by the Father.

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    • 1.Relations between necessary beings can still be causal without making the effect contingent (e.g., logical entailment).
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    • 2.A necessary causal act by the Father could produce a necessary effect; necessity of cause doesn't preclude necessity of effect.
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    • 3.Distinguishing Son's necessity from causation confuses metaphysical status with origin, leaving their relation unexplained.
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    • 1.Necessity and causation are metaphysically distinct: necessary beings don't require causal production to exist.
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    • 2.If the Son's existence were caused, it would depend on the Father's decision or action, making it contingent on that act.
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    • 3.Classical theism holds that necessary beings exist in all possible worlds; contingent causation would violate this.
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