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    It is not the case that If the target dies at time T2 after the traveler arrives at T1 < T2, the past is not altered but simply contains the killing event.

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    • 1.The claim conflates metaphysical pastness with epistemic access; something being 'in the past' doesn't resolve whether it was causally determined before the traveler existed.
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    • 2.If the traveler genuinely could have chosen not to kill at T1, then the death at T2 wasn't fixed prior to their arrival, making 'simply contains' misleading.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.The past is a fixed block of spacetime events; adding a time traveler to T1 simply means they were always part of that historical block.
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    • 2.If the target's death at T2 is a real event in history, it must have always been part of the past, regardless of causal origin.
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    • 3.No contradiction arises if the traveler's action at T1 was the actual cause of death at T2 all along—the timeline remains consistent.
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