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If there is no robust persisting self to bear active, for... — Carmelics

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Challenges→The accumulation of life and pleasure, and the passive contemplation thereof, are not our only interests.

If there is no robust persisting self to bear active, forward-looking concerns, those concerns cannot be foundational to personal identity in the way the supporting argument assumes.

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1.Personal identity requires a continuous subject that persists over time to ground identity relations.
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2.Forward-looking concerns presuppose a unified agent who will experience future consequences of present choices.
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3.Without a robust self, concerns become mere momentary mental states disconnected from biographical continuity.
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1.Identity can derive from narrative coherence and psychological continuity without requiring a metaphysical 'self'.
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2.Forward-looking concerns are foundational precisely because they constitute personal identity through intentional structure, not presuppose it.
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3.Even admitting the self is impermanent or conventionally constructed, concerns still effectively ground identity through their causal-functional role.
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Forward-looking concerns(in philosophy of mind): Goals, hopes, and worries that you have about your own future—things you care about that haven't happened yet.
Foundational(as the opposite of what cross-individual coordination is claimed to be): Serving as a basic starting point or fundamental building block from which other things are derived or built upon.
Robust persisting self(in philosophy of identity): A version of 'you' that stays basically the same and remains real over time—not just constantly changing or falling apart moment to moment.
Supporting argument assumes(in logical reasoning): A claim that an argument takes for granted to be true without proving it first.
personal identity(Philosophy of personal identity): The relation of sameness holding between a person existing at one time and something existing at another time, analyzed here in terms of psychological continuity

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Without a robust self, concerns become mere momentary mental states disconnected...