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    It is not the case that Immanent causation—causation where cause and effect are identical or overlapping—is a coherent notion defended by Aristotle and revived by E.J. Lowe.

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    • 1.The logical law that cause and effect must be distinct prevents identity; if A causes A, we cannot explain why causation occurs at this moment versus another.
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    • 2.Immanent causation conflates efficient causation with formal causation; Aristotle's four causes address different explanatory roles that shouldn't collapse into one.
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    • 3.Modern physics requires causal relata to be spatiotemporally discrete events; identical or overlapping cause-effect pairs violate this empirical framework.
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    • 1.Activities like thinking and perceiving have their cause and effect simultaneous and identical, making immanent causation observable in mental acts.
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    • 2.Aristotle's actuality (energeia) explains how a thing can be both cause and effect without infinite regress, solving a fundamental metaphysical problem.
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    • 3.Natural substances continuously actualize their own potentials; this self-causation is coherent and avoids requiring external causes for all change.
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