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    Immortality is necessary to evade the futility of human a... — Carmelics
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    Immortality is necessary to evade the futility of human achievement

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    • 1.If one knows that one's achievements are like footprints on a beach which the tides of time will eventually sweep away, a sense of futility is unavoidable
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    • 2.Immortality ensures a permanence which evades futility
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    • 1.The Stoic and Buddhist traditions demonstrate that accepting impermanence can produce equanimity rather than futility, making futility a contingent psychological response rather than a logical necessity.
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    • 2.If futility is a psychological response rather than an objective feature of finite achievement, immortality addresses a misaligned expectation rather than a genuine deficiency in the achievements themselves.
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    • 1.Bernard Williams argued in 'The Makability of the Self' that immortality would drain life of categorical desires, producing tedium rather than meaningful engagement, making immortality no solution to futility.
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    • 2.An achievement derives meaning from the finite context of a mortal life, including scarcity of time and irreversibility of choice, so permanence would dissolve rather than preserve the conditions for meaningful achievement.
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    This argument rests on several controversial assumptions. For one, the argument assumes that a divine conferral of purpose is necessary for one’s life to have meaning and purpose. Presumably, the idea is that a self-conferral of purpose would be arbitrary and limited by human ignorance or uncertainty as to what is genuinely worthwhile. A conferral by God, however, would not be arbitrary as God would confer only a purpose that is objectively worthwhile. Another assumption is that objective meanin
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