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    Challenges→In cases where optimific rule consequentialist principles favor the individual, rule consequentialism and contractualism converge on the same verdict.

    In cases like Taurek's 'Should the Numbers Count?', contractualism forbids simple aggregation while rule consequentialism may permit it, revealing that surface verdicts mask deep structural divergence.

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    'Should the Numbers Count?'(as a specific philosophical paper being analyzed)
    The title of Taurek's famous article that asks whether saving five people should automatically be better than saving one person just because five is more than one.
    Simple aggregation(as a method contractualism rejects)
    The idea that when deciding between options, you just add up the total benefits and pick whatever gives the most total good, without considering anything else.
    Structural divergence(as describing underlying differences between ethical frameworks)
    Deep, fundamental differences in how two theories are built or how they reason about problems, even if they sometimes reach the same conclusion.
    Surface verdicts(as contrasted with deeper structural differences)
    The obvious conclusions or answers that two theories might seem to agree on when you look at them casually.

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    Taurek(referenced as the author of the thought experiment being discussed)
    John Taurek is a philosopher who wrote a famous article questioning whether we should always help the greater number of people when we can't help everyone.
    contractualism
    A moral theory presented as a genuine alternative to both consequentialism and Kantian ethics, one that coheres with distinctively non-utilitarian intuitions in certain key cases
    rule consequentialism(Contrasted with act consequentialism; the most common form of indirect consequentialism)
    An indirect form of consequentialism that makes the moral rightness of an act depend on the consequences of a rule rather than on the consequences of the act itself.

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