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    It is not the case that It is not that it serves the non-damned

    Aggregate Confidence:35%

    Reasons For

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    • It makes the non-damned more thankful
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • If the above is true, then it serves the non-damned
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Gratitude grounded in others' suffering is a morally corrupted form of gratitude, not a genuine benefit (Kant, Groundwork).
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    • 2.A benefit achieved through instrumentalizing persons as means to emotional states violates the formula of humanity.
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    • 3.Any purported 'service' that requires eternal suffering as its causal mechanism cannot constitute a genuine moral good for its recipients.
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    Reason against 2 of 2
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    • 1.Jonathan Edwards' claim that the saved rejoice in damnation reveals that such 'benefit' presupposes morally vicious dispositions in the blessed.
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    • 2.A state of affairs that only 'serves' persons by cultivating schadenfreude or relief-at-others'-expense does not serve those persons' authentic moral flourishing.
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