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    It is not the case that It is not true that a perfectly good being would want to eliminate all evils.

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    • 1.Some evils are such that their actuality, or at least their possibility, is logically necessary for goods that outweigh them.
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    • 2.A perfectly good being would not want to eliminate evils that are logically necessary for outweighing goods.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.A perfectly good being values the autonomy and moral agency of persons, which requires genuine freedom to choose evil without divine interference.
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    • 2.Eliminating all evil would require either eliminating free creatures or constantly overriding their choices, both of which destroy the good of authentic moral agency.
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    • 3.Therefore, a perfectly good being, precisely because of its goodness, would preserve the conditions for free agency even at the cost of permitting evil acts.
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    Reason against 2 of 2
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    • 1.John Hick's Irenaean theodicy holds that soul-making—the development of virtues like courage, compassion, and perseverance—requires real adversity and suffering as its occasion.
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    • 2.A being with perfect goodness oriented toward persons' highest flourishing would prefer a world containing genuine moral and spiritual development over a frictionless but morally shallow paradise.
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    • 3.Thus a perfectly good being would not want to eliminate evils that are instrumentally necessary for the highest form of personal and moral development.
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