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    It is not the case that Joel Feinberg's harm principle taxonomy shows that 'preventing harm' and 'harm caused by the target' converge when harm is defined as wrongful setback to interests.

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    • 1.The 'wrongful setback' definition is circular: it defines harm using 'wrongful,' but wrongfulness itself often depends on what counts as harm.
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    • 2.Convergence is overstated—preventing potential harm and responding to actual harm involve different epistemic and causal conditions that don't align neatly.
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    • 3.Cultural disagreements about what interests deserve protection show 'wrongful setback' cannot ground a universal harm principle as claimed.
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    • 1.Wrongful setback definitions clarify when prevention is justified by establishing that only interests genuinely violated warrant intervention.
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    • 2.Convergence occurs because both concepts require causation plus wrongfulness—preventing harm means stopping wrongful setbacks before they occur.
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    • 3.This taxonomy avoids paternalism by distinguishing harmful interference (wrongful) from beneficial interference, making the principle coherent.
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