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    It is not the case that Jonathan Edwards' claim that the saved rejoice in damnation reveals that such 'benefit' presupposes morally vicious dispositions in the blessed.

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    • 1.Edwards meant rejoicing in divine justice itself, not in suffering qua suffering—a morally neutral epistemic stance.
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    • 2.Appreciating that God's justice is being fulfilled need not involve the psychological vice of enjoying others' pain.
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    • 3.The claim conflates celebrating a just outcome with the vicious pleasure of schadenfreude; these are distinct phenomena.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Rejoicing in others' suffering requires schadenfreude or indifference to their pain, which are morally vicious dispositions.
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    • 2.A morally perfect being would not derive benefit from or take pleasure in the damnation of its own creatures.
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    • 3.If the saved's happiness depends on witnessing eternal punishment, their beatitude is built on vicarious cruelty, not virtue.
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