Skip to content
Carmelics
TopicsThinkersChangesContributorsLoading account…

    Carmelics

    A reasoning platform. Break down any belief into clear reasons, explore both sides, and weigh the evidence honestly.

    Navigate

    • Topics
    • Search
    • Recent Changes
    • Contribute
    • How It Works
    • Glossary
    • Thinkers
    • Contributors
    • About
    • Statistics
    • Terms
    • Privacy

    Database

    Statements
    —
    Perspectives
    —
    Topics
    —

    Press ? for keyboard shortcuts

    LoyalLoyalJusticeJustice
    Made withinDC&Austin
    Statements
    321,452
    Perspectives
    108,905
    Topics
    42
    Home/Original/inverse
    See Original
    Inverse View

    It is not the case that Kant demonstrated that existence is not a predicate, undermining the ontological argument's inference from conceivability to actuality.

    ?Set your confidence on the premises below to see your aggregate.

    Reasons For

    1 perspective
    Reason for
    ?
    • 1.Kant conflates existence-as-predicate with existence-as-property; existence might be a special logical operator, not a property.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.Even if existence isn't a traditional predicate, Anselm's argument might work through modal or higher-order logical reasoning.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 3.Kant's distinction doesn't address why conceiving a maximally great being should differ logically from conceiving other necessary truths.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Reasons Against

    1 perspective
    Reason against
    ?
    • 1.Existence adds no new qualities to a concept; a real hundred dollars has no properties beyond an imagined hundred dollars.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.Conceivability cannot guarantee actuality, since we can coherently imagine non-existent things without contradiction.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 3.If existence were a predicate, we could derive contradictions by treating it like other properties in logical analysis.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Next step

    Based on where you are in your exploration

    Strongest counterpoint
    Explore the most compelling reason on the other side.