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    Challenges→Representing two objects as bearing a spatial relation to one another presupposes representing those objects as being in space.

    Leibniz's relational theory of space holds that space is constructed from spatial relations, not presupposed by them, making the claim circular.

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    • 1.Space cannot be a fundamental container because objects would need spatial positions before relations between them could be defined.
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    • 2.Defining space through relations avoids positing mysterious non-relational spatial properties that physics cannot independently verify.
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    • 3.The circularity objection assumes 'spatial relations' presupposes space, but relations could be primitive without requiring a pre-existing container.
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    • 1.Relations inherently require relata with determinate positions; claiming positions emerge from relations appears genuinely circular, not merely verbally so.
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    • 2.Leibniz's own system invokes 'compossibility' and 'order' concepts that implicitly assume structural spatial properties to ground relation-membership.
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    • 3.Modern physics treats spacetime as a fundamental geometric structure, not a derived construct from point-particle relations, undermining Leibniz's framework.
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