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    Love is a longing for immortality — Carmelics
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    Love is a longing for immortality

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    • 1.The lover longs for the good to be his own forever
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    • 2.Longing for the good forever entails longing for immortality
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    • 1.Love characteristically involves valuing the beloved for their particularity, not as a vessel for one's own perpetuation.
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    • 2.A longing defined by self-continuity instrumentalizes the beloved, contradicting the altruistic structure Plato himself attributes to genuine eros in the Phaedrus.
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    • 1.Heidegger's analysis of Being-toward-death shows that authentic existence requires accepting finitude rather than fleeing it into fantasies of permanence.
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    • 2.If love were fundamentally a flight from mortality, it would constitute what Heidegger calls inauthenticity, yet many philosophical traditions treat love as among the most authentic of human experiences.
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    In the midst of a drinking party, Socrates recounts the teachings of his instructress, one Diotima, on matters of love. She connects the experience of beauty to the erotic or the desire to reproduce (Plato, 558–59 [Symposium 206c–207e]). But the desire to reproduce is associated in turn with a desire for the immortal or eternal: “And why all this longing for propagation? Because this is the one deathless and eternal element in our mortality. And since we have agreed that the lover longs for the
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