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    Madhyamaka Buddhism holds that śūnyatā is not mediated by... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Absolute nothingness must be thoroughly mediated by the relative self

    Madhyamaka Buddhism holds that śūnyatā is not mediated by any self, relative or absolute, since the very concept of a mediating self is itself empty.

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    • 1.If a self mediated śūnyatā, that self would require its own essence, contradicting śūnyatā's universality.
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    • 2.Positing a mediating self creates infinite regress: what mediates the mediator's understanding of emptiness?
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    • 3.Direct non-conceptual insight into emptiness requires no intermediary subject, consistent with Madhyamaka phenomenology.
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    • 1.The claim itself presupposes a subject making the claim about emptiness—a performative contradiction.
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    • 2.Without any mediating faculty, the distinction between understanding śūnyatā and failing to understand it collapses.
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    • 3.Conventional reality requires functional selves; denying all mediation risks incoherence about how beings practice Buddhism.
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