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    Marx errs in coupling the dialectical movement with mater... — Carmelics
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    Marx errs in coupling the dialectical movement with materialism

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    • 1.Dialectical movement, traced from Plato through Hegel, is inherently teleological—oriented toward Geist or the Good, not brute matter.
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    • 2.Marx's inversion of Hegel replaces this normative telos with productive forces, severing dialectics from its constitutive upward orientation.
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    • 3.A method stripped of its telos is not a reformed dialectics but a category error masquerading as one.
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    • 1.Contradiction in genuine dialectics (as in Plato's Parmenides) functions as a spiritual discipline exposing the soul's attachments to appearance.
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    • 2.Materialist dialectics reframes contradiction as a driver of historical-economic necessity, collapsing the epistemic into the causal-mechanical.
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    • 3.This conflation makes the dialectical movement explanatorily redundant—material causation already does the work, rendering 'dialectics' mere rhetorical ornament.
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    • 1.Dialectics, in the Greek usage, is the virtue of contradiction as support for the soul drawn upwards by grace (or the good)
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    • 2.Coupling dialectics with materialism is incompatible with dialectics being a movement of the soul drawn upwards by grace
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    She follows the Greek usage of “dialectics” to consider “the virtue of contradiction as support for the soul drawn upwards by grace” (or the good); Marx errs, she thought, in coupling such a movement with “materialism” (OL 181).
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