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    Mill's harm principle grounds forward-looking obligations... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Forward-looking collective responsibility is not morally salient primarily because of its association with blame.

    Mill's harm principle grounds forward-looking obligations in the very reactive practices—censure, social pressure—that blame makes intelligible.

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    • 1.Blame practices (censure, social pressure) are evolutionarily prior to abstract moral principles and ground our understanding of accountability.
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    • 2.The harm principle's force derives from how communities actually enforce norms, not from theoretical justifications disconnected from social practice.
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    • 3.Forward-looking deterrence works because blame creates reputational costs that rational agents seek to avoid, making it practically grounded.
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    • 1.Reactive blame practices are often epistemically unreliable—crowds stigmatize the innocent and ignore genuine harms lacking social visibility.
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    • 2.Grounding obligations in blame conflates what motivates compliance with what justifies obligations, committing a moral naturalistic fallacy.
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    • 3.Mill's harm principle claims universal applicability, but blame norms vary culturally, so they cannot ground universal forward-looking obligations.
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