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    Challenges→Mill's conception of rights presupposes a hierarchy of values in which some kinds of goods are superior to others

    Mill's higher pleasures doctrine ranks qualities of experience, not types of goods, leaving the structure of rights grounded in equal human dignity.

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    • 1.Mill explicitly distinguishes intellectual pleasures from bodily ones, focusing on quality of mental engagement rather than goods consumed.
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    • 2.Equal dignity requires that all humans deserve respect for their rational capacities, independent of which pleasures they empirically prefer.
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    • 3.Higher pleasures doctrine avoids paternalism about lifestyle choices while maintaining objective standards for human flourishing.
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    • 1.Mill's claim that intellectual pleasures are 'higher' presupposes a quality ranking that seems to privilege certain experiences over others arbitrarily.
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    • 2.If rights derive from equal dignity alone, the higher pleasures doctrine becomes superfluous and potentially contradicts equal consideration of interests.
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    • 3.Mill's own examples suggest he privileges certain types of goods (education, culture) that benefit from higher pleasure ranking, undermining neutrality.
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