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    It is not the case that Modesty is not a dependent virtue

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    • 1.Aristotle's doctrine of the mean entails that virtues are responses to real features of the agent's situation, not context-independent dispositions.
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    • 2.On this Aristotelian framework, modesty displayed without corresponding merit constitutes pusillanimity, not genuine virtue.
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    • 3.Therefore modesty, as a proper mean, depends on the agent actually possessing qualities worth moderating one's claims about.
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    • 1.Modesty requires accurate self-assessment, which presupposes having genuine qualities to assess comparatively against others.
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    • 2.A person wholly lacking virtues or achievements cannot form the calibrated self-conception that modesty requires, only self-deprecation.
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    • 1.Modesty consists in knowing the equal moral worth of all people
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    • 2.One can possess the relevant knowledge of equal moral worth while lacking any good qualities oneself
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