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    Modesty is [sometimes] not good and [sometimes] good — Carmelics
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    Modesty is [sometimes] not good and [sometimes] good

    Proof of definition segmentsVirtue Ethics
    Overall Strength:55%
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    2 reasons against

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    • Modesty is not good for a needy man
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    • [Modesty is good in other circumstances]
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    • 1.Aristotle's doctrine of the mean holds that virtues are stable dispositions, not context-dependent goods that flip between good and bad.
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    • 2.If modesty is genuinely a virtue, its goodness consists in its being reliably excellence-conferring across circumstances, not episodically so.
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    • 3.A trait that is sometimes harmful and sometimes beneficial is better classified as a useful skill or social tool, not a virtue proper.
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    • 1.Kant argues that true virtues derive their moral worth from the rational will, making their goodness unconditional rather than circumstantially variable.
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    • 2.The claim that modesty is 'not good for a needy man' conflates prudential disadvantage with moral disvalue, a category error Kant explicitly warns against.
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