Skip to content
Carmelics
TopicsThinkersChangesContributorsLoading account…

    Carmelics

    A reasoning platform. Break down any belief into clear reasons, explore both sides, and weigh the evidence honestly.

    Navigate

    • Topics
    • Search
    • Recent Changes
    • Contribute
    • How It Works
    • Glossary
    • Thinkers
    • Contributors
    • About
    • Statistics
    • Terms
    • Privacy

    Database

    Statements
    —
    Perspectives
    —
    Topics
    —

    Press ? for keyboard shortcuts

    LoyalLoyalJusticeJustice
    Made withinDC&Austin
    Moral intuitions about punishment are shaped by retributi... — Carmelics
    Statements
    321,452
    Perspectives
    108,905
    Topics
    42
    Home
    HistoryEditSee Inverse

    Part of a larger discussion

    Challenges→It is important to punish wrongdoers with proportional hard treatment, even if no other good would thereby be brought about.

    Moral intuitions about punishment are shaped by retributive emotions like vengeance, which evolutionary debunking arguments show are unreliable guides to moral truth.

    ?Rate how convincing each reason is below to see the overall strength.
    1 reason for
    1 reason against

    Reasons For

    1 perspective
    Reason for
    ?
    • 1.Evolutionary debunking arguments show emotions favoring kin/tribe survival (vengeance) need not track moral facts.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.Retributive intuitions vary dramatically across cultures, suggesting they reflect evolved psychology, not objective moral truths.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 3.If punishment intuitions serve reproductive fitness rather than justice, they're unreliable guides to how societies should actually punish.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Reasons Against

    1 perspective
    Reason against
    ?
    • 1.Evolutionary origins don't entail unreliability; vision evolved for survival but reliably detects objective features of reality.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.Cultural variation in punishment norms could reflect application of shared moral principles to different contexts, not false intuitions.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 3.Retributive emotions may track real moral properties (desert, fairness) that also happened to aid ancestral survival and cooperation.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Sign in or register to share your perspective on this statement.

    Next step

    Based on where you are in your exploration

    Strongest counterpoint
    Explore the most compelling reason on the other side.

    Connections

    1 topic

    Justice & Punishment1 linked

    Related

    Cultural variation in punishment norms could reflect application of shared moral...Evolutionary debunking arguments show emotions favoring kin/tribe survival (veng...Evolutionary origins don't entail unreliability; vision evolved for survival but...If punishment intuitions serve reproductive fitness rather than justice, they're...
    +3 moreShow less
    It is important to punish wrongdoers with proportional hard treatment, even if n...Retributive emotions may track real moral properties (desert, fairness) that als...Retributive intuitions vary dramatically across cultures, suggesting they reflec...

    Details

    Type
    claim
    Perspectives
    2 (1 for, 1 against)
    Edits
    1 edit