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    Music's ability to express subjective life is undermined ... — Carmelics
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    Music's ability to express subjective life is undermined by Hanslick's negative argument in On the Musically Beautiful.

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    • 1.Hanslick argues that music can only suggest the dynamic qualities of emotions (their motion, tension) but not their specific emotional content.
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    • 2.Without determinate emotional content, music cannot express subjective life in the robust sense Hegel and Romantics require.
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    • 3.The dynamic qualities Hanslick concedes to music are insufficient to individuate distinct emotional states like grief versus fear.
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    • 1.Hanslick's formalist thesis holds that musical content consists solely in 'tonally moving forms,' not representational or emotional states.
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    • 2.If musical meaning is exhausted by purely formal tonal relations, then attributions of subjective expression are listener projections, not musical properties.
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    • 3.Listener projection undermines the Hegelian claim that music objectively embodies and communicates inner subjective life as a shared content.
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    • 1.Hegel claims music has the ability to express subjective life.
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    • 2.Hanslick's negative argument in On the Musically Beautiful targets claims about music's expressive capacities.
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    While considerably less explored than his controversy with Wagner, Hanslick’s relation to Hegel is also interesting. Hegel’s claim regarding music’s ability to express subjective life surely falls within the scope of the negative argument laid out in On the Musically Beautiful. However, Hanslick makes a characteristically Hegelian move when he holds that musical form is music’s content. This is not a gratuitously paradoxical formulation, but rather bears the mark of Hegel’s conception of beauty
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