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    Mutual benefit is consistent with exploitative relations ... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Sweatshop employment relationships are not morally worse than their absence

    Mutual benefit is consistent with exploitative relations when one party captures gains far exceeding their proportional contribution (Sample, 'Exploitation').

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    • 1.Exploitation requires asymmetric power to extract unfair advantage; mutual benefit alone doesn't eliminate this structural inequality.
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    • 2.A sweatshop worker earning subsistence wages while enriching owners demonstrates mutual benefit coexisting with exploitation of labor.
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    • 3.Proportionality of gain distribution is morally distinct from whether exchange occurred; unfair gains can follow voluntary transactions.
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    • 1.If both parties genuinely benefit from exchange, calling it exploitative requires defining exploitation by distributional fairness alone, not consent.
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    • 2.Determining 'proportional contribution' is deeply subjective and context-dependent, making this standard too vague to reliably identify exploitation.
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    • 3.If someone voluntarily accepts a deal where gains are unequal but still improve their condition, denying their autonomy by labeling it exploitation is paternalistic.
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