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    No natural number n is the Gödel number of a proof of G_F... — Carmelics
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    Supports→For all natural numbers n, F proves the negation of Prf_F(n, ⌜G_F⌝)

    No natural number n is the Gödel number of a proof of G_F in F

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    For all natural numbers n, F proves the negation of Prf_F(n, ⌜G_F⌝)Strong representability entails that unprovability of each instance is provable ...The proof relation Prf_F is strongly representable in F

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    Assume that \(F \vdash \neg G_F\). Then \(F\) cannot prove \(G_F\), for otherwise \(F\) would be simply inconsistent. Hence no natural number \(\boldsymbol{n}\) is the Gödel number of a proof of \(G_F\), and because the proof relation is strongly representable, for all \(\boldsymbol{n}\), \(F \vdash \neg\Prf_F (\underline{n}, \ulcorner G_F\urcorner)\). If also \(F \vdash \exists x\Prf_F (x, \ulcorner G_F\urcorner)\), \(F\) is not 1-consistent, against the assumption. Therefore \(F\) does not pr

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