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    Not all infinite sets have the same cardinality. — Carmelics
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    Not all infinite sets have the same cardinality.

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    • 1.The positive real numbers have a greater cardinality than the positive integers.
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    • 2.Both the positive real numbers and the positive integers are infinite sets.
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    • 1.Predicativist mathematicians like Poincaré and Weyl reject impredicative definitions, which underlie the construction of the real number continuum.
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    • 2.Without a predicatively acceptable construction of the reals, the claim that ℝ constitutes a well-defined set of greater cardinality than ℕ cannot be established.
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    • 3.If the supporting argument's first premise relies on an illegitimate mathematical object, the comparative cardinality claim loses its primary evidential basis.
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    • 1.Cantor's diagonal argument presupposes that completed infinite totalities are coherent mathematical objects, which strict finitists like Wittgenstein deny.
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    • 2.If 'infinite set' does not refer to a well-formed object, cardinality comparisons between such sets are meaningless rather than false.
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    At this point, one might be forgiven for thinking that there is no cardinal number greater than that of the natural numbers, just as there is no extended real number larger than \(+\infty\). However, Cantor’s second striking result is that the cardinality of the positive real numbers is in fact greater than the cardinality of the positive integers, and his third striking result is that for every set, the set of all its subsets—its power set—has an even greater cardinality. Although many differen
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