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    Challenges→Modalists like Sabellius historically accepted that Father, Son, and Spirit are numerically identical with God while denying tritheism, showing a coherent trinitarian-adjacent position exists.

    Numerical identity doctrine faces the logical problem: if Father and Son are numerically identical to God, they must share all properties—yet differ in suffering, knowledge, or location.

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    Father and Son (in theological context)(as used in Christian theology and philosophy of religion)
    Two persons in the Christian Trinity—God the Father and God the Son (Jesus Christ)—who are believed to be divine but distinct persons.
    Logical problem(as used in philosophical argumentation)
    A contradiction or inconsistency that arises when you try to make sense of two ideas together—like trying to say something is both all-knowing and ignorant at the same time.
    knowledge(Distinguished from mere true belief, which may be the product of indoctrination and need not exercise deliberative capacities.)
    Justified true belief — true belief that has been arrived at through the exercise of deliberative capacities, including comparison of and deliberation among alternatives.
    numerical identity(Distinguished from qualitative similarity when discussing whether a tailed cat and a tailless cat are the same individual.)

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    The relation an entity bears to itself and nothing else; being one and the same individual entity rather than merely qualitatively similar.
    properties(Contrasted with substances as ontologically dependent entities.)
    Entities that depend for their existence on substances, being properties of individual objects.

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