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    It is not the case that Objects cannot have spatio-temporal structure independently of our representing them as spatio-temporal

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    • 1.Mathematical structures like prime numbers or the continuum exhibit necessity independently of any representing mind's intuitive forms.
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    • 2.If mathematical necessity can obtain mind-independently, spatio-temporal structure grounded in mathematics (as in Euclidean geometry) may likewise be mind-independent.
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    • 3.Kant's inference from the necessity of synthetic a priori truths to their mind-dependence conflates epistemic and ontological necessity.
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    • 1.Scientific realists like Grover Maxwell and J.J.C. Smart argue that our best physical theories posit spatio-temporal relations as features of a mind-independent causal structure.
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    • 2.If representational success in science is best explained by correspondence to actual structure, then spatio-temporal organization in objects provides a superior explanation to transcendental idealism.
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    • 3.The fact that creatures with radically different cognitive architectures could discover the same relativistic spatio-temporal relations suggests those relations are not artifacts of human forms of intuition.
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    • 1.Our particular representations necessarily have spatio-temporal structure due to our forms of intuition
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    • 2.Any objects that had spatio-temporal structure independently of our so representing them would have such structure only contingently
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    • 3.If spatio-temporal structure in things-in-themselves is only contingent, then synthetic a priori propositions about space, time, and mathematics would not be necessarily true throughout their domain
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