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    It is not the case that Objects causally produce representations in perceivers, and causes must be ontologically distinct from their effects.

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    • 1.Emergence shows effects can be genuinely novel yet ontologically continuous with causes—water's liquidity differs from H2O's properties but isn't separate.
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    • 2.In neural causation, brain states produce representations through internal organization, not external causation between distinct substances.
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    • 3.The requirement that causes be 'ontologically distinct' begs the question: identity at one level (physical) allows distinctness at another (functional).
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    • 1.Physical causation requires distinct relata: a billiard ball causes motion in another ball only because they are ontologically separate entities.
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    • 2.Representations are intentional states with content; objects lack intentionality, so they must differ ontologically from representations they produce.
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    • 3.If causes and effects were identical, causal explanation would be uninformative—we'd only restate what already exists rather than explain change.
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