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    It is not the case that Omnibenevolence is not equivalent to maximizing immediate comfort, but to willing the highest good, which may require permitting suffering as a necessary developmental condition.

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    • 1.Extreme suffering (torture, terminal illness in children) seems incompatible with development and teaches only despair, not virtue.
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    • 2.Claiming suffering is 'necessary' is unfalsifiable; any amount of pain can be rationalized as developmental necessity.
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    • 3.An omnipotent being could create beings who develop virtue without experiencing extreme suffering—this alternative isn't available to parents.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Moral development requires overcoming obstacles; comfort without challenge produces stunted character and shallow virtue.
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    • 2.An omnibenevolent being optimizes for ultimate flourishing, not momentary pleasure; these goals sometimes conflict.
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    • 3.Parents permit their children's suffering through education and discipline; this reflects love, not cruelty.
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