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    It is not the case that On the B-theory too, there is reason to worry about the combination of omniscience with timelessness.

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    • 1.A timeless being can know all tenseless B-series facts (e.g., 'event E is at t₁') without knowing indexical 'what time is it now' facts.
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    • 2.Omniscience need only require knowledge of all true propositions, and on B-theory, tensed indexical propositions reduce to tenseless ones.
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    • 3.Therefore, a timeless God on B-theory faces no knowledge gap requiring temporal change, since no genuinely irreducible 'now'-facts exist.
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    • 1.Eleonore Stump and Norman Kretzmann's ET-simultaneity framework allows a timeless being to be present to every moment without existing within time.
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    • 2.If timeless eternity is ET-simultaneous with every temporal moment, God's omniscient grasp of each moment requires no successive change in God.
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    • 3.The inference from 'knowing what time it is at multiple times' to 'undergoing change' only applies to beings whose mode of presence is itself temporal.
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    • 1.If a B-theoretic subject S knows what time it is at more than one time, then they undergo changes.
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    • 2.If God's temporal nature relevantly resembles our own, then God would also need to undergo such changes to maintain omniscience.
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    • 3.Timelessness is incompatible with undergoing changes.
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