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    It is not the case that On this view, God's rejoicing would occur even if the repentant person had wronged a third party, meaning God's emotional state tracks repentance rather than the moral relationship between wrongdoer and victim.

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    • 1.Genuine repentance includes accepting obligation to make amends to victims; celebrating repentance while ignoring victim harm severs repentance from its moral meaning.
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    • 2.If God's emotional state disconnects from whether victims are actually wronged or reconciled, this treats victims as morally irrelevant to the moral situation.
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    • 3.Rejoicing over internal repentance alone, without victim restoration, could enable God to celebrate injustice that remains unrepaired in the world.
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    • 1.Repentance involves genuine moral transformation of the wrongdoer's character, which is intrinsically valuable regardless of victim restoration.
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    • 2.God's emotional responses should track internal moral states (contrition) rather than external relational facts to avoid making divine joy dependent on victim choice.
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    • 3.A parent's joy at a child's sincere apology and changed heart is appropriate even if the victim hasn't yet forgiven, paralleling God's response.
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