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    It is not the case that One is not required to obey a state solely because the state has issued a command.

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    • 1.A legitimate state authority generates content-independent reasons for obedience, as Raz argues in 'The Morality of Freedom' (1986).
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    • 2.If citizens only obey commands they independently judge just, coordinated governance and the rule of law become structurally impossible.
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    • 3.The service conception of authority holds that states better enable subjects to conform to right reason than individual judgment alone.
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    • 1.Associative obligations, as defended by Dworkin, arise from membership in a political community and are not reducible to the justice of particular commands.
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    • 2.Requiring independent evaluation of each command's justice privileges those with epistemic resources, systematically disadvantaging the marginalized.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Obedience is not owed to the state on the basis of the state's authority alone.
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    • 2.The justness of the commanded action, not the source of the command, grounds the obligation to obey.
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