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    It is not the case that Origen, even in defending universal restoration, acknowledged 'unquenchable' implied a divinely sustained process, confirming the term carries durational weight independent of OT annihilationist contexts.

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    • 1.Origen's universal restoration doctrine is theologically contested; his interpretive moves may reflect commitment to that system rather than neutral philological analysis.
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    • 2.Ancient annihilationist interpreters also recognized 'unquenchable' denoted permanence, not duration—they simply interpreted the *result* as final destruction, not ongoing process.
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    • 3.Attributing durational weight to 'unquenchable' doesn't establish what occurs during that duration; it remains compatible with annihilationist eschatology.
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    • 1.Origen's exegetical method required reconciling biblical language with philosophical coherence, making his acknowledgment of 'unquenchable' durational weight textually significant.
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    • 2.The term 'unquenchable' (asbestos) in Greek literature consistently denotes sustained, ongoing processes rather than instantaneous cessation across non-theological contexts.
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    • 3.Universal restoration theology demands accounting for fire's temporal properties, making Origen's durational reading necessary rather than rhetorical.
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