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    Our obligation to virtue remains fully valid even under radical skepticism about external reality.

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    • 1.Passions and affections are known to us with certainty regardless of whether their external objects are real or illusory.
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    • 2.The moral and practical balance we must maintain (economy of conduct) holds good whether life is reality or a dream.
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    • 3.Demonstrations of reason retain their force within the dream of life just as they would in waking reality.
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    • 1.Virtue requires action oriented toward genuine goods, and if external reality is radically uncertain, the very category of 'genuine good' collapses into mere subjective preference.
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    • 2.Shaftesbury's 'economy of conduct' presupposes a stable natural order whose teleological structure grounds moral norms, but radical skepticism dissolves precisely that ontological foundation.
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    • 3.Without confidence that our affections track real features of the world, the distinction between well-ordered and disordered passions becomes an internal aesthetic preference, not a moral obligation.
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    • 1.Hume's is-ought gap entails that the felt certainty of our passions generates no normative 'ought' without a bridging claim about the value of those passions' objects.
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    • 2.Radical skepticism about external reality severs any such bridging claim, reducing Shaftesbury's 'demonstrations of reason' to coherence within a potentially fictive system that carries no genuine obligatory force.
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    For let us carry Scepticism ever so far, let us doubt, if we can, of every thing about us; we cannot doubt of what passes within our-selves. Our Passions and Affections are known to us. They are certain, whatever the Objects may be, on which they are employ’d. Nor is it of any concern to our Argument, how these exterior Objects stand; whether they are Realitys, or mere Illusions; whether we wake or dream. For ill Dreams will be equally disturbing. And a good Dream, if Life be nothing else, will
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