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    It is not the case that Paul Helm argues that any simultaneity relation strong enough to ground divine knowledge of temporal events collapses eternity into sempiternity, regardless of its adicity.

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    • 1.Atemporality doesn't require all relations between God and temporal events to be temporal; non-temporal knowledge relations may preserve eternity.
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    • 2.Helm conflates the atemporality of God's perspective with the temporal structure of what God knows; these are logically distinct dimensions.
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    • 3.Adicity variations (binary, ternary relations) could differ enough that some preserve eternity while others collapse into sempiternity, contra Helm's universality claim.
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    • 1.Any relation making God's knowledge of temporal facts determinate requires facts to be fixed and stable relative to God's cognition.
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    • 2.Temporal facts are only fixed and stable if they exist at a determinate time, which renders them sempiternal rather than eternal.
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    • 3.Eternity without access to temporal facts' determinate truth-values leaves divine omniscience incomplete regarding the temporal world.
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