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    Perceiving a demand as authority-independent and universa... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Children's intuitive distinction between conventional and moral demands captures at least part of what it means for a moral demand to be objective.

    Perceiving a demand as authority-independent and universal is a phenomenological fact about the perceiver, not evidence of the demand's ontological status.

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    • 1.Phenomenology describes subjective experience; ontology describes objective reality. These are distinct domains with different evidentiary standards.
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    • 2.Many perceptions feel universal yet vary across cultures/individuals, suggesting phenomenology reflects psychology, not metaphysical facts.
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    • 3.The subjective sense of authority-independence doesn't logically entail that demands lack dependence on minds or social structures.
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    • 1.If phenomenology never reliably tracks ontology, we lose grounds to trust any philosophical introspection, undermining the position itself.
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    • 2.Some phenomenological invariants (e.g., logical necessity, moral wrongness of torture) correlate with objective truths, suggesting perception can evidence reality.
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    • 3.The claim conflates 'how a demand feels to us' with 'what a demand depends on'—but feeling independent doesn't prove dependence elsewhere.
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