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    It is not the case that Pleasing form is sometimes sufficient for beauty without imaginative association.

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    • 1.Kant argues in the Critique of Judgment that pure aesthetic judgment requires disinterested contemplation, not mere sensory form.
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    • 2.What appears as direct formal pleasure is always conditioned by culturally acquired schemas of proportion and regularity.
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    • 3.Therefore, no perception of form is free from associative or conceptual mediation that undermines the claim of sufficiency.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Wittgenstein's remarks on aesthetics suggest that aesthetic responses are embedded in forms of life, not triggered by isolated formal properties.
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    • 2.Even natural beauty judgments like 'that flower is beautiful' presuppose learned frameworks of organic wholeness and teleological expectation.
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    • 3.Hume's own account of sympathy and custom implies that any approbation involves trained sensibility, not raw formal reception.
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    • 1.Initial impressions of the form of a material object can generate approbation directly.
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    • 2.Such form-based beauty is more typical of natural beauty than of art.
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