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    Popular Latin trinitarianism is incoherent — Carmelics
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    Popular Latin trinitarianism is incoherent

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    • 1.The Athanasian Creed affirms both that each Person is God and that there are not three Gods, generating an irreducible logical tension.
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    • 2.No reinterpretation of 'is' (predicative vs. identity) dissolves the contradiction without abandoning classical divine simplicity.
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    • 3.Divine simplicity entails that God has no distinct parts or modes, making any real distinction among Persons formally inconsistent with monotheism.
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    • 1.Relative identity solutions (following Geach) require abandoning the Leibniz Law of indiscernibles, which undermines standard logical inference across trinitarian theology.
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    • 2.If the Father is omniscient and the Son is not omniscient qua human, classical Latin theology cannot appeal to relative identity without conceding compositeness in God.
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    • 1.Popular Latin trinitarianism holds claims 1–3 about numerical identity among the divine persons and God
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    • 2.The numerical identity relation is defined as transitive and symmetrical
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    • 3.Claims 1–3, given transitivity and symmetry of numerical identity, logically imply the denials of claims 4–6
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    But the conjunction of these claims, which has been called “popular Latin trinitarianism”, is demonstrably incoherent (Tuggy 2003a, 171; Layman 2016, 138–9). Because the numerical identity relation is defined as transitive and symmetrical, claims 1–3 imply the denials of 4–6. If 1–6 are steps in an argument, that argument can continue thus:
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