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    It is not the case that Pre-established harmony smuggles in a covert relational dependence on God that undermines the very definition of substance Leibniz requires.

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    • 1.Leibniz explicitly accounts for God's role; relying on God is not covert but openly stated as the metaphysical foundation of his system.
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    • 2.God's initial programming of harmony differs from moment-by-moment dependence; monads retain independence once created with complete concepts.
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    • 3.Substance independence needn't exclude God-dependence; Leibniz distinguishes between intrinsic perfection and existential grounding in God.
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    • 1.Leibniz defines substance as self-sufficient and independent; God's constant action maintaining harmony violates this independence criterion.
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    • 2.If monads require divine coordination to avoid contradiction, their complete concepts cannot be truly self-contained as Leibniz claims.
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    • 3.The theory relies on God's causal role to explain inter-monadic consistency, making substances ontologically dependent despite Leibniz's denials.
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