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    LoyalLoyalJusticeJustice
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    It is not the case that Procedural justice traditions (Rawls, Scanlon) hold that how a benefit is produced and distributed matters morally, not only whether outcomes are equal.

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    • 1.Procedure alone cannot be morally primary—a fair process producing severe suffering for some while others thrive is still deeply unjust.
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    • 2.Prioritizing procedure risks entrenching historical inequalities; a fair market mechanism starting from unequal positions perpetuates injustice.
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    • 3.Claims about dignity through participation ring hollow to those harmed by procedures—actual outcomes, not procedural satisfaction, determine real justice.
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    • 1.Fair procedures respect individual agency by giving people voice in decisions affecting them, not just receiving predetermined outcomes.
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    • 2.Procedurally just distributions maintain self-respect and dignity better than equal outcomes imposed without consent or participation.
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    • 3.Process legitimacy matters because wrongly-obtained benefits create resentment and undermine social cooperation even if final distributions seem equal.
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